tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post4574496285697194612..comments2023-12-23T20:39:16.612+01:00Comments on A Femme d'Un Certain Age: Ronde, Rubenesque, RavishingTish Jetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08865177127050648489noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-38027514796839606262012-10-28T22:38:28.461+01:002012-10-28T22:38:28.461+01:00Fashion, for me, has always been an aspirational e...Fashion, for me, has always been an aspirational endeavor, and fashion magazines a fantasy, an escape. As the daughter of a 425-pound woman fully disabled and institutionalized due to weight, I think I'm going to play it safe and just leave my comments at that. I think the white outfit on the cover is a FAIL though. Drea, your observation is fascinating. xoxoxJohnhttp://jenniferovalenzuelaq.posterous.com/strategies-on-how-to-fix-your-homes-interiornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-60259774533065137192010-04-03T09:33:31.025+02:002010-04-03T09:33:31.025+02:00Hello! Coming to you from the PdP thread... I liv...Hello! Coming to you from the PdP thread... I lived in NYC for years and years and years and then moved to Paris for years and years and years. I was struck by how disciplined French women were in so many areas of their lives, including weight. But I generally found New York women infinitely more beautiful. It's easy to forget that slim does not necessarily = attractive. <br /><br />As for these glorious photos, to me they demonstrate that heavy does not necessarily = unattractive. And whether or not her weight is unhealthy, I suspect if we checked every skinny model's who appears on the pages of Elle, we might discover more than a few unhealthy women.s.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04741062569246094417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-60637522836605068392010-04-01T17:36:44.398+02:002010-04-01T17:36:44.398+02:00Splenderosa, with the same genetics as women in Fr...Splenderosa, with the same genetics as women in France, women in Québec tend to be heavier and curvier. The winter? Hearty winter foods eaten although most of us work in offices now, not cut trees or do farm chores in the cold? <br /><br />I don't see as much extreme obesity here as in the US or even some other parts of Canada, but "normal" is a good 15lb more here than in la mère patrie. <br /><br />(Obviously not all of us are of "pure" French stock, but that is just as true in France). <br /><br />I am very much against that showing anyone heavier than an ideal body weight promotes obesity. Heavier people exist, and have a right to wear decent clothing, unless you think they should wear sausages and look like "boudins" (ill-dressed and flabby pudgy women). <br /><br />Most of us, fat or thin, live far too sedentary a lifestyle. France does tend to have less suburban sprawl, so people walk more.lagatta à montréalhttp://www.lemab.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-15032971694149001172010-03-30T23:03:19.720+02:002010-03-30T23:03:19.720+02:00I have Johanna Dray's height and shape, and wa...I have Johanna Dray's height and shape, and want to "hold" there. <br /><br />I had Jane Birkin's reedy figure (over two decades ago) and I can tell you (from more experience than I would like me to admit) that men like both as long as the woman is sexy. It is women who seem desperate to be skinny.<br /><br />What do men think? My husband (who has known me at many weights) says, "Women should have curves. Why do you think they call it 'sins of the flesh'?"Duchessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09986153653120526776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-69672094122724317822010-03-30T22:41:11.191+02:002010-03-30T22:41:11.191+02:00Dear Anonymous,
Never have I heard that French wo...Dear Anonymous,<br /><br />Never have I heard that French women or girls are jealous of Scandinavians. Honestly, I have no idea. I think your father is right on the mark.<br /><br />You, I take it, are one of those gorgeous Scandinavian blondes which means you are immediately noticed and admired -- repeat, admired. Now, this may cause jealousy, but that's not at all your problem. Studies have shown that because blonde hair attracts light, both men and women are immediately "attracted" to it, as in can't help but notice.<br /><br />I know what you mean about all the blondes who aren't and have no explanation for that, but being blonde seems to have a universal appeal. As for blue eye liner, I don't see it in Paris or where I live on woman of any age.<br /><br />Don't think I have answered your question very well. If you need more clarification, please write back.<br /><br />Your English is magnificent. What are you studying in France?<br /><br /> Remember, the French do have a reputation for taking their time to open up and develop friendships. Sometimes they are misjudged as being chilly or aloof, which is usually not true.<br /><br />Best regards,<br />TishTish Jetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08865177127050648489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-75855628567406973052010-03-30T22:36:32.475+02:002010-03-30T22:36:32.475+02:00Wasn't it Coco who said, "there comes a t...Wasn't it Coco who said, "there comes a time in every woman's life when she must choose between her face and her bum?". Actually, I think she said "ass" but, I would never, of course.<br /><br />I am all for excepting oneself totally, as long as one's weight is healthy. And I must confess, coming from the states, where so many people are disastrously overweight, it's difficult to ignore the health implications. I do have to watch what I eat, but I've never been a fast food, or junk food eater, and that makes it a bit easier.Pamela Terry and Edwardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12746603636884819522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-33364885086246370162010-03-30T22:28:15.739+02:002010-03-30T22:28:15.739+02:00Dear Duchesse,
You turn the subject right back at...Dear Duchesse,<br /><br />You turn the subject right back at us in that intelligent, perspicacious way of yours. You're right, it's not as if we're seeing trends set here, for weight or fashion. <br /><br />Merci comme toujours.Tish Jetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08865177127050648489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-55227720041504879322010-03-30T22:23:47.321+02:002010-03-30T22:23:47.321+02:00Dear Splenderosa,
I must admit, I do not see many...Dear Splenderosa,<br /><br />I must admit, I do not see many overweight French women in Paris or in the countryside where I live. They tend to fall into two categories: what we would all call "normal" and slender normal. I do not see anorexia and as I mentioned above, I mainly see teenage girls and young women in their early 20s smoking. Most of their mothers stopped years ago, and yes for health reasons. Then they fought the good fight not to gain weight.<br /><br />Dear Liz, I so agree with you. We are very hard on one another, aided and abetted of course by the fashion and beauty industry which trains our eye to see beauty in a specific way.<br /><br />Hi Julie, It's wonderful you think of yourself as a thin woman, most women think of themselves as overweight no matter what the number on the scale. I suspect you're beautiful.<br /><br />Dear Shelley,<br /><br />Loved your comment. Imagine if a magazine DARED to do age and size in one package? Wouldn't that be fun. Who knows, maybe Elle will do it. Remember not long ago it did the sans makeup black and white pictures which caused quite a stir as well.<br /><br />Dear Maryanne, Anne Fontaine is wonderful.<br /><br />Yes, Sisty, we're talking a French 38.Tish Jetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08865177127050648489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-57254634277006176632010-03-30T19:28:10.753+02:002010-03-30T19:28:10.753+02:00To be clear, we're talking a French size 38, c...To be clear, we're talking a French size 38, correct? Because if I've got that right, a French 38 corresponds to an Italian 42. <br /><br />Not that it's that important, but I wear an Italian 46 and that model is quite a bit heavier than I am.sistyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09053105066815670135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-46224720739346619322010-03-30T18:41:02.142+02:002010-03-30T18:41:02.142+02:00I too am relieved to see women of various sizes, f...I too am relieved to see women of various sizes, from slim through heavy. How precisely does showing images of heavy women "promote obesity"? If only heavy women were shown, in all fashion editorial and advertising, maybe. But they are still hardly on the radar.Duchessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09986153653120526776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-50841692302042809002010-03-30T16:20:31.954+02:002010-03-30T16:20:31.954+02:00Hi Tish!
Well thank God Anne Fontaine makes up to ...Hi Tish!<br />Well thank God Anne Fontaine makes up to a size 5!!!!!!!I liked this she is gorgeous..I think it is all in the presentation. I like what Drea said. Good point.....Maryanne xoBeadboard UpCountryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08021853986081835613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-38779368273775658572010-03-30T15:05:44.946+02:002010-03-30T15:05:44.946+02:00I noticed they haven't addressed both age and ...I noticed they haven't addressed both age and weight at the same time. Youngsters can get away with the flab because it's not flabby yet. She has a pretty face, but she's not going to sell me any clothes. For me, staying thin wasn't exactly tough until I hit my late 40s, so I don't know what she'll look like in her older years. Not great, I would guess. <br /><br />It's a tricky thing, isn't it? You don't want everyone to go around starving themselves and smoking so they can be scrawny and fashionable. On the other hand, accepting an unhealthy amount of weight is just taking the pendulum to the other extreme. Me? I'm still aiming for the middle ground, ie middle of the healthy BMI range: 22. It manages to stay just a very stubborn 6-8 pounds out of reach! But I've not given up yet...Shelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10239488936038510294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-14548657084161817502010-03-30T11:36:44.414+02:002010-03-30T11:36:44.414+02:00Note my comment above is not related to the plus-s...Note my comment above is not related to the plus-size model. I just wanted to leave a comment on the post where it was most likely to get an answer :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-59215410565492512552010-03-30T11:35:32.478+02:002010-03-30T11:35:32.478+02:00I wanted to debate something that has mostly to do...I wanted to debate something that has mostly to do with one of your previous posts - hairstyles. Now, I am a Norwegian living in France, 19, and back home my friends were nervous for me moving to France as we know french women - girls in particular - to be extremely jealous and rather rude towards scandinavians. Now we know that women in the South of Europe tend to have a petite figure, often brown eyes and dark hair. And so they all dye it blonde. My father says they admire the scandinavian look, but in my own opinion, the look of Coco Chanel, Juliette Binoche, Marion Cotillard ... women that are typically FRENCH, is so much more flattering to them. So it always surprises me when I see a mature french women with bleached hair. She can be fashionable in so many ways - but then I think that is really not YOU. Especially not with that blue eyeliner around your eyes! So why do they do this. They seem to loathe us scandinavians - even though I feel like I am certainly fitting in, getting an education here and all.<br /><br />Love your blog. Excuse my English. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-66621051597022874432010-03-30T08:56:47.118+02:002010-03-30T08:56:47.118+02:00She's pretty but I think - what about her heal...She's pretty but I think - what about her health? What about the stress on her ankles, back etc?<br />Not good. <br />I say practice more self control, the old adage - less in the mouth, more energy - exercise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-27187815157540204832010-03-30T03:28:18.679+02:002010-03-30T03:28:18.679+02:00HI Tish
Well i was one of those people who couldn&...HI Tish<br />Well i was one of those people who couldn't put on weight if i tried... and in fact i did try .. right through my teens and 20's.. back then angular was not 'feminine'... and trying to buy fashion was almost impossible.. everything just swam on me.. <br /><br />But then ... [there's always a but then isn't there?]... by my mid 40's it started to change and now i can't seem to shed it... The thing is.. healthy or not .. it is a body image issue... my mind sees itself as slim .. after a lifetime of being so.... when i catch a glimpse of myself or look in the mirror .. i don't recognize the person i see... and shopping for clothes is a nightmare.. .. as much as I'd like to say weight should not be important.. one needs to be comfortable in their own skin and feel themselves.. whatever that may be... <br /><br />Interesting post and the model is certainly one beautiful girl... and I agree she is well toned which i think makes all the difference .. xx JulieJulie@beingRUBYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10424920655462727594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-27696592310967128392010-03-30T00:49:58.149+02:002010-03-30T00:49:58.149+02:00Dare, double dare, any top US fashion magazine to ...Dare, double dare, any top US fashion magazine to put a ronde Tara Lynn on the cover. Bet it will never happen. <br /><br />Tish's comment directed to those of you under age 50 regarding wait and see how your body changes; plus Tish's comment that the sooner you begin to eat in moderation and exercise the better your life will be are both pertinent. Take it from someone who did not heed that advice. However, I do believe that one can improve one's body and looks no matter what age, and not by spending lots of money either.<br /><br />This was fun, xoxo, Caroleknitpurlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14166524571162914783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-42147167723653041342010-03-30T00:47:03.551+02:002010-03-30T00:47:03.551+02:00Tish, clever clever clever. However, I for one, do...Tish, clever clever clever. However, I for one, do not believe there are ANY fat French women. Their body structure is quite different than ours, they are very angular people, that's why they go topless...most of them don't have boobs. Anyway, it was a good thought.Splenderosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06421992667097947469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-45733843430757693902010-03-30T00:23:27.319+02:002010-03-30T00:23:27.319+02:00Very well done by photographer David Oldham. These...Very well done by photographer David Oldham. These are a good addition for any country. I'm a little sad over many of the womens comments. We are very hard on each other. There's room for everyone.Liz.Photohttp://elizabethavedon.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-4565945915898033252010-03-30T00:11:08.026+02:002010-03-30T00:11:08.026+02:00Fashion, for me, has always been an aspirational e...Fashion, for me, has always been an aspirational endeavor, and fashion magazines a fantasy, an escape. As the daughter of a 425-pound woman fully disabled and institutionalized due to weight, I think I'm going to play it safe and just leave my comments at that. <br /><br />I think the white outfit on the cover is a FAIL though.<br /><br />Drea, your observation is fascinating.<br /><br />xoxoxMarsihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18263482303983558563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-61976061460259806692010-03-29T23:37:28.809+02:002010-03-29T23:37:28.809+02:00Hi Jaqueline - I'm at work right now and can&#...Hi Jaqueline - I'm at work right now and can't lay my hands on the original article, but I think this might link to it:<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/nm5rohSusan Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16005855250089328310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-56926418963579363082010-03-29T23:33:38.523+02:002010-03-29T23:33:38.523+02:00Oh merci Tish! Merci mille fois pour tes commentai...Oh merci Tish! Merci mille fois pour tes commentaires à propos de mon théâtre! Coming from a real writer, I am honored! Have a marvelous evening! AnitaCastles Crowns and Cottageshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01780241008313365707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-7075852099886605882010-03-29T23:29:11.300+02:002010-03-29T23:29:11.300+02:00Dear Belle,
You could live in France, you're ...Dear Belle,<br /><br />You could live in France, you're chic and have fab-u-lous jewelry. More right on over.Tish Jetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08865177127050648489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-80208739127426128032010-03-29T23:28:22.396+02:002010-03-29T23:28:22.396+02:00Dearest Jackie,
I think I'll add fuel to the ...Dearest Jackie,<br /><br />I think I'll add fuel to the debate between you and Pseu. Tomorrow I'll post a picture of Tara I didn't use today. She's sitting in a peacock chair a la Emmanuelle if anyone remembers that chestnut and you can see what is beneath the cloth.<br /><br />At the same time I'll include a picture of a woman who has a blog called "leblogdebigbeauty.com who wears a size 52. <br /><br />Are we having fun or what?<br /><br />xoxoTish Jetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08865177127050648489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8632687405116920387.post-59495537084146120572010-03-29T23:22:42.090+02:002010-03-29T23:22:42.090+02:00Dear Anita,
We are all created morphologically un...Dear Anita,<br /><br />We are all created morphologically unequal. Or should I say, we're all unique and then we take that singular quality and turn it into something beautiful.<br /><br />Clearly you have done that in more ways than one, my dear.<br /><br />xo,<br />TishTish Jetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08865177127050648489noreply@blogger.com