Tuesday, September 27, 2011

Famous Faces. . .

Jacqueline Bisset
of women in their 60s and 70s. And one, well into her 80s.

I see we're on a roll with this one. I'm enjoying the subject as much as you are, which brought me to the decision to plunge in once again and this time add my opinions on the subject.

Obviously there is no reason to point out which women unfortunately fell into the hands of a bad surgeon or a good one on an off day or she insisted on more than she should have. The evidence speaks for itself. In those cases I think it is so very sad to see one's face destroyed.

I have a friend in New York who had a facelift. The surgeon was one of the leaders of the pack in the city. They are/were friends socially. Prior to being wheeled into the operating theater he did the classic "line drawings" on her face to guide the procedure. She later found out it was not he, but one of his acolytes who followed the lines. Since that day she has not been able to completely close her eyes. When the wind blows down the city streets, tears pour down her cheeks.

Anouk Amiée
Diahann Carroll
Joanna Lumley

Marisa Berenson
It's probably next to impossible when one's face is her fortune, her career, her everything, not to try to "save" something from the past. Being beautiful may be a blessing, but it can also be a curse when one has built a life upon its ephemeral benefits. I'm sure we all know beauties who relied solely on that fleeting genetical "leg up" who have spiraled into despair when they see newer models taking their place.

A facade without a foundation is most definitely a slippery slope. I think every mother, father, aunt, grandfather, grandmother should tell little girls that beauty is the luck of the draw and, in their best interest and for all those they will meet and love throughout their lives they must be more than an empty shell. I believe girls should be encouraged to be kind, generous, educated, charming, thoughtful and principled. (I also think it's an excellent idea to have impeccable manners. There's a "leg up" if ever there was one. Boys too.)

Dame Maggie Smith
All of this is to say, I think women should do whatever makes them happy, empowered and confident, assuming they are not taking dangerous risks. But, surgery is always a risk. Personally, I have a neck fund I'm building. I'll leave the rest of my face in peace and see how things work out. I figure as long as they stay below the chin I should be safe. No question about it, Nora Ephron had a point, the black turtleneck solution has its benefits, but one cannot live in a black turtleneck every-single-day-for-the-rest-of-her-life, and at some point it will ultimately have to be unrolled up to the ear lobes. (I'm just being honest.)

Two more points -- and let the criticisms roll on in -- puffy eyes and beige teeth. We must smile to look young, so do what's necessary to keep them as white -- without being ridiculous -- as possible. Let me remind you, I am a reporter and sometime social commentator, in this instance I'm simply repeating something I witnessed. When working with models on photo shoots, a couple of them took diuretics before they came in. They appreciably reduce puffy eyes. (So does watching one's salt intake and at a later date I will delve into natural puffy eye remedies, but I've already written too much today.)

Kathleen Turner
Candice Bergen

Cybil Shepard
Barbara Hershey
A couple of other observations: weight watching, without being obsessive is important; hair color must be kind not harsh. Bottom line, let's once and forever decide we want to look the best we can for our ages in whatever way we define that goal.

Betty White. Don't you want to grow up to be like Betty?  (Or, maybe a Maggie Smith/Betty White combo?)
As one esthetician I interviewed pointed out, "You can't stop the train, but you can definitely make the ride as pleasant as possible."

Just keep smiling and smiling and smiling.


Lily Lemontree said...
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Lily Lemontree said...

Just love these posts Tish!
It's a shame sometimes when you see these once beautiful faces ravaged by botched work or even worse, not knowing when to stop with the nips and tucks.
I'm with you, I might dabble in a little neck work at a later date but I will try my luck with Mother Nature when it comes to my face!

kathy peck said...

Anouk Aimee looks so comfortable in her own skin, she has aged so beautifully. I think this group of photos is a testament to the "less is more" theory, as one ages.
Less surgery (but not necessarily none), less makeup, less bright colored lipstick, simpler clothing, and less "styled" hair.

Lia said...

I'm interested in the texture and resonance of aging. Not to say I haven't been fairly demoralized by the changes since the big M. One of the freakiest moments I experienced was in a restaurant, I heard a very old lady voice talking to her husband...I looked up to see a puffed, stretched and lineless face. Shivers! Can't hide the hands or voice. Overall it made me feel sad for the woman. How interesting she may have looked naturally rather than like a circus freak.

hostess of the humble bungalow said...

I am enjoying these posts Tish.
Wow I would not have recognized Kathleen Turner!

That book by Nora Ephron was a great read, she is so self deprecating that one just has to laugh along with her.

I would pay money for your natural puffy eye tips!

Lorrie said...

I'm enjoying these posts, Trish.

I like what you've said about teaching our girls. We used to tell our children "it's wonderful that God made you beautiful on the outside, but it's more important to be beautiful on the inside." Sounds trite, but it's something our girls have remembered.

Love the insights you give into the fashion world - diuretics before a photo shoot to reduce puffy eyes? No wonder we can never measure up to those models.

Marielle said...

You tell it, girl! The mostly natural ladies are indeed the most lovely. In most cases a good hair colorist and foundation enhance that "natural" look.

Don't worry about criticism--this blog is indeed your forum, so you have a right to speak your personal truths. I grow weary of the pressures to be politically correct. My personal "rule" is the Golden Rule: Truth, with kindness.

I love reading you "truths" and acquired wisdom.

Monique said...

C'est ainsi, le temps passe....et la jeunesse aussi, mais le charme est toujours là, a n'importe quel âge. Avec un joli maquillage, des cheveux colorés et une belle robe le tour est joué et les belles restent belles malgré tout.

Anonymous said...

Don't forget Julie Christie, Jessye Norman, Patti Smith & Sonya Braga! This is a topic dear to my heart as I hurtle towards 60. It's always comforting to see the road ahead so inspiringly lit.

California Girl said...

Nora Ephron's book "I Feel Bad About My Neck" is a scream. My husband gave it to me for Christmas several years ago. It was to ease my pain about aging.

Julie Christie is a good one to post. She still looks great but not unnatural. I like Meryl & Diane Keaton's looks but they're also my favorite actresses.

I think Candace looks good but no longer like Candace.

On the other hand, Jackie Bisset looks terrific.

California Girl said...

One more thought, Betty White has always looked happy and fulfilled. Even playing the devious Sue Ann Nivens on the MTM show, you knew she was having a blast. She radiates joy and vitality and at 89 (hard to beliueve), it makes her BEAUTIFUL.

Anonymous said...

Please...any help on puffy eyes... most appreciated!


Hana said...

I love your posts. I came from a family where the women were pretty much treated as work horses and now, finally, being almost 40 I am beginning to treat myself and take care of myself! It is sooo awesome to see that I have another 30 or 40 years to look put together, neat, and stylish. Not sexy, not grandma-like, but womanly!

Jill Ann said...

Have to agree about the importance of weight control (speaking from the perspective of a naturally slim/normal weight woman who got fat after childbearing in her late 30s, and is just now struggling back to a normal weight 15 years later!)

I think most of us will agree that a FEW extra pounds in our "maturity" is fine, and helps keep the aging face from looking too drawn. On the other hand, excessive weight looks terrible on anyone (Kathleen Turner, I'm looking at you!), not to mention the health issues. As a middle aged woman, I've felt somewhat invisible for a while now...but being an overweight middle aged woman practically makes me disappear. Now that I'm considerably thinner (still a ways to go, though) I am feeling MUCH better about myself, and getting dressed is way more fun than it was before.

Still wondering how bad the baggy skin will be once I reach the goal weight! And what to do about my neck?????

Pamela Terry and Edward said...

You know, when I think about which of these women I'd like to have a long lunch with, Maggie Smith wins hands down. Neck or no neck.

Lost in Provence said...

Oh yeah, I was happy to see that you kept this going! And I am looking forward to going back and reading the rest of the comments from yesterday.

One more thing that I wanted to add. As an actor, I started getting pressure to do something about my wrinkles when I was 30. 30! And I was a theatre actress--not film! Oh my. I just roll my eyes when someone like Scorcese condemns actresses for getting work done. Geez louise, I was supposed to poney up $3000 for a brow lift (because yep, this was after the Botox which didn't do squat) just to bag a $300/week job? So I can only imagine the song in these ladies heads. Still makes me sad to see such a great face gone wrong, but I am just saying...

Chicatanyage said...

I agree with looking after your teeth. I had mine whitened and went to an orthodontist to have them straightened before my daughter's wedding, which involved wearing braces for 18 months (transparent ones). It was time and money very well spent, crooked yellow teeth can be very ageing. Now I smile with more confidence. I was at school with Marisa Benenson, she was always stunning, I'm not sure the no lines look suits her.

That's Not My Age said...

This is such a good idea - love it!

Susan Tiner said...

Great posts! I keep meaning to read Nora Ephron's book.

It's interesting, seeing these images and sorting out what seems to work well.

kathy peck said...

Yes on Julie Christie - she's a great one to post.

LPC said...

I really enjoy Candice Bergen having put on weight. Good for her. She looks so happy.

Deb said...

These "Famous Faces" are fun! Most look so lovely, that pesky neck-thing not withstanding! (And yes, Nora Ephron's book is laugh-out-loud funny)!
Consider Paul Newman and Robert Redford - one aged wonderfully, looking handsome at every age. One decided to overdo the surgery thing and now doesn't look bad, just looks like someone else.
Seems like the key is restraint - do not embrace the "if a little is good, more must be better" mentality.

Jean S said...

I must speak up about Kathleen Turner--she has rheumatoid arthritis and has been quite ill at times. My guess is that she's grateful to be alive and working, never mind the weight gain (which is a side effect of her treatment).

And yes, Betty White does radiate joy--I hope to be like her as I continue to age!!

Mrs P said...

Julie Christie is a great one to include, but like Jane Fonda she openly admits to a facelift - they perhaps had the same surgeon because the results are quite natural I think. I completely agree with you about carrying excess weight, not only do you look better with a few pounds off, you feel better too. Great post thank you x

BigLittleWolf said...

And Lorrie's comment about what we teach our girls is equally important in terms of what we teach our boys.

By example, as well as through words. They will always be visual (so are women), but we must show them the value of seeing the person inside - every person - and especially those they might consider spending their lives with.

LuxeBytes said...

Poor Kathleen Turner; her body's been most unkind to her, which is doubly difficult considering how hot it was when she was younger.

Anouk Aimee is one of those grand women of a certain age who really flies under the radar; she looks wonderful.

Excellent point about the teeth, and very interesting about the puffy eyes. Your public definitely demands a post on the latter.


vicki archer said...

I am all with you about the neck.....xv

TK Kerouac said...

I'm with you about the neck. My eye goes for it everytime a see a photo or look in the mirror. Would love to have something done one day. Its all about choice.

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